[01.01.2025] Updated content, AnKing-MCAT/AnKingMed, ID 2730995

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I do wonder if it would be better to label the phosphate in the new dna strand as the alpha phosphate and the pyrophosphate to have the beta and gamma labels to make this even more clear. LMK any thoughts.

Also if maybe I should include the numerical labeling of the sugar group.

My only hesitation is that the existing image, while not great, does label the phosphodiester bond whereas the new one does not (which is the linchpin of the card, as a whole).

Maybe something like:

Or, alternatively, if we can find a way to appropriately label the suggested image. But in this case, given the namesake of the card, it’s probably important to have the phosphodiester bond labeled, I think. Or, at least, is ideal

Great point. I really like the image I suggested specifically because it shows the alpha, beta, and gamma phosphates and the new phosphodiester bond only with the alpha phosphate. If it’s alright with you, I’ll go back and edit the image I suggested to include the phosphodiester bond being labeled along with the individual ester bonds and sugar numbering as shown in the image you suggested. Therefore it achieves the main purpose of the card while also providing that additional info that will be tested on the AAMC practice tests/kaplan.

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Definitely, and I agree those details are readily tested on UWorld.

If we can get the image you shared such that it contains all of that relevant info it would be ideal. At the very least it would also likely make it a candidate for a number of other cards in the deck, which would mean we’d get multiple employment out of the one image (which would be less true for the one I linked above).

How about this. Also do you think it makes sense to label the phosphate in the chain as alpha and in the pyrophosphate as beta and gamma to rlly drive home which phosphates are included in the bond and which leave or no because its already obvious from the arrow pushing and because they aren’t technically beta and gamma phosphates anymore after they’re cleaved from the alpha phosphate.

Scratch that one I think the alpha beta gamma positioning can be improved one sec.

Is it possible to make the ‘phosphodiester bond’ portion (font) a bit bigger, just so it stands out a little bit more at first glance?

Hmm. No, I think you’re right, while the alpha, beta, etc., are useful they’re not as intrinsically important once it’s linked and I think we also run the risk of this image becoming very ‘busy’ at a certain point and losing focus.

Edit: unless you have another idea you think will work. I’m always open to new ideas. :slight_smile:

I agree. I think it’s going to get busy and it’s already pretty obvious from the arrow pushing mechanism. How’s the size of the phosphodiester bond text on this one?

For the image I suggested on this card: [01.01.2025] Updated content, AnKing-MCAT/AnKingMed, ID 2730909

I’m gonna plan to resubmit with the new updated position of alpha, beta, and gamma. Should I also plan to reduce the size of the phosphodiester bond label and remove the highlighting and then highlight, bold, increase size of the pyrophosphate since that’s the main purpose of the card?

Size is better on that one, yeah, I think it stands out as being more apparent for sure. :slight_smile:

Up to you. In the simplest possible version of the world if you have one version of the image we can just copy-and-paste it to whichever cards it suits, it lowers overhead and effort.

It’s rare to have one of those images that works for a lot of cards (kind of same reason above, as once it becomes widely applicable enough to be useful for, say, 10-12 cards, it’s often as a result pretty busy and the eye no longer naturally gravitates to the point of interest), though it is nice when we land on one that can pull heavy duty in that way. :slight_smile:

Ok. I think the best option then would be one image like this. Highlighting immediately draws eyes to phosphodiester bond and pyrophosphate so the image fits well in the two cards that it is most specific to while also not having too much going on where it can’t be pasted in other cards in the deck.

If you like it, would you mind rejecting the suggestion on this thread as well as this one so I can resubmit both. Thanks!

Also a separate but related comment to this card ^. I see on AnkiHub that there is an additional resources text "In doing so, a water molecule is released. The pyrophosphate can then be hydrolyzed into two inorganic phosphates (Pi) as well as images. Neither the texts nor images show up in the actual card for me on Anki. Any thoughts why?

Hard to say in isolation. Is that the only card that behaves that way for you?

You might try resetting local changes, which is usually the trick that resolves stuff like this 99% of the time (usually caused by some random hang-up between the Ankihub servers and updating your local collection): Resetting Local Changes

And/or, I would make sure you don’t have the ‘Additional Resources’ field protected on Ankihub, which would prevent it from updating generally

Let me know how/if that helps

All cards behave like that for me. I’ve never seen anything in the additional resources section for any card. Weirdly, it was protected on Ankihub which explains why I’ve never seen anything in this section, but I’ve never went in and made any changes to which fields are protected . Same with the sketchy field that I now see has images and text in them. Any chance at some point this became accidentally set to default for users? Similar to how missed questions/lecture notes are default protected (from my understanding)? Also, none of the images seem to load in Anki or on Ankihub in the additional resources field or sketchy field. For example, in the card that you just updated the additional field section with a source, I see:

I’ve always seen the “image not available” in the additional field section on Ankihub (but of course haven’t seen this in the additional resource section in the actual application until now since it was protected). I just had never thought anything of it because I hadn’t specifically seen an edit to the additional resources section implying I should be seeing an image until now. Before, when I saw image not available on Ankihub, it didn’t raise any flags to me since I also didn’t see anything in the deck so I thought it was just some glitch in how this field was presented on Ankihub.

If you unprotect, and then reset local changes, let me know how/if that works for you.

Resetting local changes while the field is protected won’t do much (as per the protection), but if you unprotect and then reset it should populate those fields. If it doesn’t, let me know and we can troubleshoot further.

The additional resources field doesn’t have a lot of media, I’d say maybe something like 10% of cards have something in it (that’s just a guess, I barely pay attention to it). It’s almost invariably older stuff from earlier in the deck’s lifespan so you’re rarely missing out on anything

If unprotecting and resetting doesn’t do the trick there are a couple of other things we can try. It doesn’t happen a lot, but it does occasionally happen for folks that their note types need updating (which is the next likeliest cause)

Sorry should have noted above that this is true even after I unprotected and then reset local changes.

What version of Anki are you running, which OS, and do you have the Anking Note Types add-on installed?

Anki Version ⁨24.11, MacOS Sequoia, yes I have the note types add-on installed and it is up to date.